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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 03/27/2014 :  11:03:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A lot has happened since this post was commented upon. Our forum was a lot more active back in 2006, 2007, and 2008, and then died down.

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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 04/24/2008 :  7:52:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
123notary.com

www.nationalnotary.org National Notary Association (NNA). Serving US Notaries for 50 Years!

Why do they have to use my name to advertise still? I will have to bring this up with them. Lookup 123notary.com on google and you will find it. The NNA is using 123notary.com's name to advertise their site. I wonder if that is even legal?
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radonotary

Florida
234 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2008 :  1:42:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit radonotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
as well they should
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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 02/26/2008 :  08:17:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The thought suddenly occured to me. I wonder if this blog will get published on google. Sometimes strings in our forum get on the first page of google. The NNA will hit the roof if they find out that what they did became publicized inadvertantly. I'm sure that whatever staff member did the imitation of us was not authorized and nobody in management found out... yet. But they will find out.
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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 02/24/2008 :  1:04:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I saw the site pretending to be 123notary. It is stupid and not even functional. If anyone visits them, they will quickly come back to our site if they really want to visit our site. The sell mostly become a notary classes which is something I am not selling much of these days anyway.

I will be optimizing my site for keywords notary123 and notary 123 which get a some search volume. Somebody already owns the site notary123.com and sells books for people in California to become a notary. Oh well. Thats their right.

However, its not someone's right to misuse my company name. They can advertise under the keyword 123notary on pay-per-click if they like, but not use my name.. otherwise I might get mad.
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vince

Kansas
324 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  07:42:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit vince's Homepage  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by BrendaTx
If I were Jeremy, I'd be all over that and send them a friendly cease and desist email.



Jeremy's paid advertising, name recognition and reputation helps these others get recognized if he doesn't take action to stop it. If they are not up to his standards it could certainly hurt this group by association.
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BrendaTx

Texas
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Posted - 02/23/2008 :  10:54:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit BrendaTx's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Here is the other company hijacking "123 notary".

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If I were Jeremy, I'd be all over that and send them a friendly cease and desist email.

quote:
Originally posted by BrendaTx

What happens is when someone can't remember 123notary dot com but they can remember "123notary" or "123 notary" (which is being hijacked by yet another company), they put the search term into the URL bar or into google.com search bar.

The ad comes up as 123notary but it isn't. It's the faker. By using the 123notary trademarked name it is hijacking the branding for this site. Click on it and you will go to the NNA site.

Search terms are one thing, but using the title of 123notary in the ad is another. But, if it doesn't bother Jeremy, it shouldn't bother me. I just think it goes to show that the NNA will use unethical ad tactics. It's interesting to say the least.


quote:
Originally posted by Lee-AR

On 2/23, using MSN search, the following appeared under sponsored sites, center page, top spot:


Sponsored sites
123notary
- www.nationalnotary.org
National Notary Association (NNA). Serving US Notaries for 50 Years!


When you click on 123notary, you are taken to the NNA website.
I copied page into Word also, if you need it.




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BrendaTx

Texas
60 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2008 :  10:50:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit BrendaTx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What happens is when someone can't remember 123notary dot com but they can remember "123notary" or "123 notary" (which is being hijacked by yet another company), they put the search term into the URL bar or into google.com search bar.

The ad comes up as 123notary but it isn't. It's the faker. By using the 123notary trademarked name it is hijacking the branding for this site. Click on it and you will go to the NNA site.

Search terms are one thing, but using the title of 123notary in the ad is another. But, if it doesn't bother Jeremy, it shouldn't bother me. I just think it goes to show that the NNA will use unethical ad tactics. It's interesting to say the least.


quote:
Originally posted by Lee-AR

On 2/23, using MSN search, the following appeared under sponsored sites, center page, top spot:


Sponsored sites
123notary
- www.nationalnotary.org
National Notary Association (NNA). Serving US Notaries for 50 Years!


When you click on 123notary, you are taken to the NNA website.
I copied page into Word also, if you need it.


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Lee-AR

Arkansas
678 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2008 :  9:10:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On 2/23, using MSN search, the following appeared under sponsored sites, center page, top spot:


Sponsored sites
123notary
- www.nationalnotary.org
National Notary Association (NNA). Serving US Notaries for 50 Years!


When you click on 123notary, you are taken to the NNA website.
I copied page into Word also, if you need it.
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BrendaTx

Texas
60 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2008 :  09:03:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit BrendaTx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Email me, Jeremy. I captured it on PDF yesterday in case you wanted to see it.

quote:
Originally posted by jbelmont

That is really interesting. I never noticed that before. But honestly, I am not really competing directly with the NNA since their offerings are very different from mine. On the other hand, I don't like them using my company name in their ad as that is not ethical and is deceptive to the users.

I checked and didn't see the fake 123 ad there

I am advertising heavily with google, but please understand that sometimes the ad might not show up for a few minutes or hours and then may re-show up. Google is weird in this respect. A bit unpredictable.

Let me know if you guys see any fraudulent advertising and I can call the NNA up and ask them to knock it off.

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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 02/23/2008 :  07:21:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That is really interesting. I never noticed that before. But honestly, I am not really competing directly with the NNA since their offerings are very different from mine. On the other hand, I don't like them using my company name in their ad as that is not ethical and is deceptive to the users.

I checked and didn't see the fake 123 ad there

I am advertising heavily with google, but please understand that sometimes the ad might not show up for a few minutes or hours and then may re-show up. Google is weird in this respect. A bit unpredictable.

Let me know if you guys see any fraudulent advertising and I can call the NNA up and ask them to knock it off.
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radonotary

Florida
234 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  05:55:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit radonotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yup
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BrendaTx

Texas
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Posted - 02/22/2008 :  05:46:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit BrendaTx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by radonotary

J., Sponsored Links mmmmmmmmmmmmm



Yes. These are paid ads. That's why it is so wrong when they do that.

It would be like me paying google to use the words 123notary and when someone clicked on the ad it would open up my website.

123notary has a proprietary right (I think that is the term) to their own name and trademark.

Obviously, I am not creating my part of this story for amusement. IamSam also found the problem as well as did Linda. It is possible that the ad has been pulled. If someone from the NNA was reading this board this morning and saw about the google ad display, they can have it pulled quickly through google's handy AdSense creation tools.
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radonotary

Florida
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Posted - 02/22/2008 :  05:05:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit radonotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
J., Sponsored Links mmmmmmmmmmmmm
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radonotary

Florida
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Posted - 02/22/2008 :  05:04:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit radonotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just did it. I put 123notary in the search bar. This was on the right ( sponsored links )


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Edited by - radonotary on 02/22/2008 05:06:59 AM
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BrendaTx

Texas
60 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  05:00:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit BrendaTx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It was on the right hand side where they serve google ads when I located it.

quote:
Originally posted by radonotary

I don't know if you have already fixed it but I just googled 123notary and it looks fine. this is what I got:

123notary.com
www.123notary.com Printable loan signing e-courses Find a mobile notary by city or zip

Mobile Notary Service
www.n3notary.net Any Time Any Place Member BBB Call 800.455.1146

mobile notary public directory - 123notary.com
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radonotary

Florida
234 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  04:57:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit radonotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't know if you have already fixed it but I just googled 123notary and it looks fine. this is what I got:

123notary.com
www.123notary.com Printable loan signing e-courses Find a mobile notary by city or zip

Mobile Notary Service
www.n3notary.net Any Time Any Place Member BBB Call 800.455.1146

mobile notary public directory - 123notary.com
Nationwide zip code searchable mobile notary public directory. Includes chat forum, supplies, and training to become a notary public or mobile notary.
www.123notary.com/ - 36k - Cached - Similar pages
Locate a Notary
Update your listing
Advertise With Us
123 Notary
Signing Companies
Certification Test
Loan Signing Course
Advanced Search
More results from 123notary.com »

mobile notary public directory - 123notary.com
More than 80% have contact info, 2 tries at cert test · Cert prep book · Elite test · Elite Prep ebook. ©2004 123Notary.com.
www.123notary.com/loansign.htm - 21k - Cached - Similar pages

NotaryWork Notary Solutions
Notary Work, Inc. 29222 Rancho Viejo Rd., Ste. 217. San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675. P: (888) 899-6963. F: (888) 211-4781. solutions@notarywork.com ...
notarywork.com/ - 9k - Cached - Similar pages

123notary.net, La Mesa, CA 91943 - Reviews: Notaries
See 1 review of 123notary.net in La Mesa, CA 91943: 123notary.net is always on time to every document signing and without error. I would recommend them to ...
sandiego.kudzu.com/ controller.jsp?An=4294966259&A=1182620&Au=P_CompanyID - 40k - Cached - Similar pages

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BrendaTx

Texas
60 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  03:59:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit BrendaTx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Same scumbag trick they pulled on NR through google ads.

Google 123notary on any google search box. Here's what you get.

123notary
National Notary Association (NNA).
Serving US Notaries for 50 Years!
www.nationalnotary.org

Harry put a stop to it via Google. They pulled the NNA's fake NR ad asap.

I know this because I am the one who located the fake ad and brought it to his attention.





quote:
Originally posted by LindaH

Jeremy, at the urging via e-mail from iamsam I searched through msn.com (which I'm sure you've done also)...here's what came up...

Sponsored sites123notary.com- www.nationalnotary.org
National Notary Association (NNA). Serving US Notaries for 50 Years!

Click on the first 123Notary link and you're directed to the NNA website...






Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


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LindaH

Florida
1754 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  03:18:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jeremy, at the urging via e-mail from iamsam I searched through msn.com (which I'm sure you've done also)...here's what came up...

Sponsored sites123notary.com- www.nationalnotary.org
National Notary Association (NNA). Serving US Notaries for 50 Years!

Click on the first 123Notary link and you're directed to the NNA website...






Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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LindaH

Florida
1754 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  01:51:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iamsam

My web browser is msn.com. When I type in 123notary.com it brings up a page that has NNA in the same subject matter. When I saw this, I immediately wanted to cancel my renewal with 123. Now that I know better, I appreciate all the comments.



I just tried this...IE7, Google and Yahoo searches...NONE of them brought up 123Notary with NNA logos....they all went straight to the 123Notary homepage...iamsam, possibly the NNA in the subject matter was quoting a post from that particular website??...just a thought.

Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell

Edited by - LindaH on 02/22/2008 02:01:24 AM
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iamsam

Virginia
35 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  01:07:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit iamsam's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My web browser is msn.com. When I type in 123notary.com it brings up a page that has NNA in the same subject matter. When I saw this, I immediately wanted to cancel my renewal with 123. Now that I know better, I appreciate all the comments.
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iamsam

Virginia
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Posted - 02/22/2008 :  12:17:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit iamsam's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you type in 123notary.com it brings up 123notary and underneath it says National Notary Assn. I was going to ask for my membership money back if they were one and the same.
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Lee-AR

Arkansas
678 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  12:08:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wasn't 'Lee' that thought this. Was iamsam. Lee knows better. And now so does iamsam. LOL
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crtowles

California
553 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  1:06:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
God no we are not the same!! What made you think that Lee?

Carmen
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Shannon

California
360 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  10:47:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit Shannon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
LEE- good zinger!! my feelings exactly!!

NNA=PROFIT MACHINE (and don't give a hoot about the NSA)

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iamsam

Virginia
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Posted - 02/21/2008 :  06:06:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit iamsam's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Are 123notary and National Notary Assn. the same company?
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