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lightk

Alabama
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  5:45:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit lightk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In Alabama, I'm not supposed to accept any ID that expired prior to today's date.

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edelske

New York
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  09:30:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This should be a non-issue. If your state requires unexpired ID - ask the caller to confirm by reading to you the expiration date. If a signing ask the same question when you confirm the appointment. Here in NY there is no such requirement; only "adequate proof" which is left to the individual notary to define.

Kenneth A Edelstein
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LindaH

Florida
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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  10:53:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by AKnotary

This is an interesting question. According to National Notary Association, expired means expired-and is therefore not valid ID.

If ID is expired, even if the expiration date was yesterday, I don't accept it as valid ID. If I end up in a lawsuit over the use of an expired ID, how will that come out? In my opinion, even if the state law prevails, I as the Notary will lose valuable time and money defending myself, and that's not worth the fee for 1 lost transaction. I'm interested to hear more from others.



You need to check with your own SOS (or whatever regulatory agency governs notaries in your state) - if THEY say if expired then no good, then you're right. However, if they have provisions such as FL and CA do, then you would have to accept the ID presented (and no surprise, the NNA would be wrong). I know that as it applies to FL per Florida SOS, the NNA is wrong when they say "...expired means expired-and is therefore not valid ID. "

Best bet is check with your own state.

Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com
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AKnotary

Alaska
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Posted - 05/30/2012 :  10:16:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is an interesting question. According to National Notary Association, expired means expired-and is therefore not valid ID.

If ID is expired, even if the expiration date was yesterday, I don't accept it as valid ID. If I end up in a lawsuit over the use of an expired ID, how will that come out? In my opinion, even if the state law prevails, I as the Notary will lose valuable time and money defending myself, and that's not worth the fee for 1 lost transaction. I'm interested to hear more from others.
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Dannotary

California
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Posted - 04/02/2012 :  12:10:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dannotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yes, in Calif, it is 5 yrs from the issue date.
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LindaH

Florida
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Posted - 04/01/2012 :  3:39:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same in Florida - current ID or, if expired, is acceptable if issued within the past 5 years.

Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com
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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 04/01/2012 :  1:07:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have not read the code in a few years, so it is hard to remember. I'm not sure what the rule is in 2012, but California notary law used to allow a drivers license to be expired if it had been ISSUED within 5 years of the notarization date.

I think that Tennessee notary law also had some provisions for expired licenses. What are the rules -- state by state? This could be an interesting discussion topic.

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