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mdnotary

Maryland
10 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2014 :  06:46:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I closed for them in May 2014.
I have invoiced and emailed every month. (no response)
They don't answer they're phones (office or cells) nor do they response to messages.

I did my job...they need to pay me.




M.P. Staron
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SigningAgentCoach

California
42 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2012 :  9:28:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Geezo. I am a Notary PUBLIC, not a notary private and what people do with their money is up to them. If the job requires me to travel (in CA), then I can decline. If the money is right and I have an opening, I won't decline: I'm a business woman in business and I mind my own business. Why would I JUDGE the job?

Do I have a right to my opinion? Sure. But this is WORK, not something I'm dating or marrying.

Why all the hoopla, I dunno xoxo


Kelly Robertson,
California Notary Public
(951) 317-0125
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edelske

New York
815 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2012 :  11:20:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have had notary calls (rather "high end") where the clients did NOT want me to see the documents. As I have no responsibility (in NY) to make sure there are no "blanks" - it's not a problem.

The notary section is always (in these cases) set up as a separate, and numbered page. They sign page 28 (which I witness) and I notarize page 29. Is the document for "an illegal act"? I don't know, and feel I have no responsibility for the content, just the signatures.

However, if I DO know the document to be illegal (a "hit" contract!); I certainly would not notarize it. On second thought - I probably would not decline service to contract killers!

Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
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jbelmont

California
3106 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2012 :  11:06:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
An interesting point is that loan modifications often don't even require a single notarized signature -- notaries are hired solely because they supposedly know how to complete a closing. So, they are likely NOT to be a public request for a notarization making them legal to turn down assuming they don't require notarizations, or assuming they require anything above and beyond a simple notarization. The problem is that the notaries let their personal sense of ethics get in the way of their work.

Honestly, according to Christianity and Islam -- loaning money for interest is immoral... period! So, all notarizations of loans are immoral. Most of the financial trouble in the world arises from the fact that everyone is loaning money at interest to each other creating all sorts of unstable chains linking many parties together. If one link in the chain breaks, then the world economy can end up in shambles which is one reason why loaning for interest is a serious problem!

The solution to this problem is that we should all live in caves and eat beans, rice, and berries -- or learn to adopt more moderate views of finance! If people handled their finances RESPONSIBLY, they wouldn't need a modification in the first place -- don't forget!
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LindaH

Florida
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Posted - 06/13/2012 :  12:35:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"On the same subject: As you (and I) feel the "up front" fee is "morally wrong" - is it our place to advise (unauthorized practice of law?) the prospective borrower with our "opinion" to not sign?"

Here in FL, (and I know for a fact CA is the same) it's not just the "morally wrong" issue - they're illegal, and the AG of FL is pursuing many companies who did collect up-front fees from people for modification or debt resolution work. No fees are to be collected until the work is complete. In fact - it's against FDIC regulations too. So, knowing that, I personally would not want my name associated with any transaction where up-front fees are collected - it's illegal and my name will not attach to any illegal acts.

Can I advise the signer of that? No, I cannot. Which is why I don't take the assignments. I don't put myself in that position.

JMO

Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com

Edited by - LindaH on 06/13/2012 12:42:59 PM
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edelske

New York
815 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2012 :  09:54:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sailing

I too received a call from this third party "loan modification" California company. At first I thought it was Housing Hope, a non-profit no-fee organization. After reviewing the documents I discovered it was not Housing Hope, but Hope for Housing and that their "fee" was in excess of $3900.00. I called and declined. The person I talked to was not very happy and I finally hung up.

Diane J. Elliott



You raise an interesting moral question. Here in NY it's illegal to refuse to notarize (assuming it would be legal to do so). Thus if someone were to go to a NY notary with the papers - it would be illegal to refuse. Of course, as a mobile notary there is nothing illegal about declining an assignment. But, what would you do if the borrower(s) brought the papers to you at a "place of public accommodation" - eg: at a bank or pharmacy?

On the same subject: As you (and I) feel the "up front" fee is "morally wrong" - is it our place to advise (unauthorized practice of law?) the prospective borrower with our "opinion" to not sign?

Just food for thought and hopefully the insights of other forum members.

Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
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sailing

Washington
59 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2012 :  7:12:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit sailing's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I too received a call from this third party "loan modification" California company. At first I thought it was Housing Hope, a non-profit no-fee organization. After reviewing the documents I discovered it was not Housing Hope, but Hope for Housing and that their "fee" was in excess of $3900.00. I called and declined. The person I talked to was not very happy and I finally hung up.

Diane J. Elliott
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16664

Louisiana
18 Posts

Posted - 02/29/2012 :  11:46:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I received a call from Hope for Home. Phone number 888-232-8572. Has anyone heard of this company?
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