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edelske

New York
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Posted - 07/09/2012 :  12:03:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by TGS1985

I always have the stamp and acknowledgement on the same paper otherwise it doesn't happen. No and, ifs, or buts.

That said I've never had someone try to "force" me to stamp anything else nor have I had a document rejected. I do make sure to explain to the signer why I'm adding a loose certificate but basically my attitude is that if the maker of the document has an issue than they can contact me and I'll email them the CA Handbook with the necessary info highlighted.

This reminds me of a story however. I recently notarized 32 affidavits for a Calfirnia Law Firm. I didn't have enough loose Jurats and was debating whether I should print more before I left. I mean come on they're a LAW FIRM they must know the state laws right? Well I played it safe and made sure I had enough. GOOD FREAKING CALL. Every affidavit had the incorrect wording and required a loose certificate. I was honestly shocked and a little annoyed. I can't believe that even a law firm didn't know the state notary laws. I thought for sure they would give me crap when I told them that I added loose certificates. Thankfully they didn't, but it goes to show you never assume anything. "Ass of u and me" and all that...

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I, also, have had "volume" situations where loose ACKs were required - and a LOT of them. I filled out 2 (except for my signature) with venue, affiant name (fortunately all for same person), date, etc.
Then onto the copier, making 2 at a time (my ACKs are half page). Just had to cut page in half, sign and emboss and attach (with "overstamp - half on ACK half on underlying document) then staple. It's OK to photocopy the notary stamp and everything else but signatures (both) must be original. Sure saves a lot of writing.....

Kenneth A Edelstein
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TGS1985

California
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Posted - 03/15/2012 :  5:02:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit TGS1985's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I always have the stamp and acknowledgement on the same paper otherwise it doesn't happen. No and, ifs, or buts.

That said I've never had someone try to "force" me to stamp anything else nor have I had a document rejected. I do make sure to explain to the signer why I'm adding a loose certificate but basically my attitude is that if the maker of the document has an issue than they can contact me and I'll email them the CA Handbook with the necessary info highlighted.

This reminds me of a story however. I recently notarized 32 affidavits for a Calfirnia Law Firm. I didn't have enough loose Jurats and was debating whether I should print more before I left. I mean come on they're a LAW FIRM they must know the state laws right? Well I played it safe and made sure I had enough. GOOD FREAKING CALL. Every affidavit had the incorrect wording and required a loose certificate. I was honestly shocked and a little annoyed. I can't believe that even a law firm didn't know the state notary laws. I thought for sure they would give me crap when I told them that I added loose certificates. Thankfully they didn't, but it goes to show you never assume anything. "Ass of u and me" and all that...

- Tyler -

Edited by - TGS1985 on 03/15/2012 5:04:03 PM
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edelske

New York
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Posted - 01/14/2012 :  7:59:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The problem I have had is the reverse of what you describe. VERY often with a loan package is a "un-associated" "loose ack". One that does not have any loan number, reference to what signature it is for - just a "free floating" ack.

My first thought is that it is for the prior page - and upon inspection I always determine that is not the case. Calls to the various "work providers" usually result in "O, it's just a spare - please fill it out in case we need it".

The notaries reading this post are predominately pros. They know how illegal both the request and (if done) the "loose ack" would be.

To directly answer the original question. I put HALF my stamp on the loose ack (it's 1/3 of a page in size) and the other half on the document signature page. The ack also has a full stamp and embossing.



Kenneth A Edelstein
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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 10/08/2011 :  2:04:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In California, you can notarize a signature, and the notary certificate wording can be embedded in the document or on a loose acknowledgment or jurat certificate. But, have you ever been forced to either stamp on the document, or have the document be rejected by whomever it was being submitted to?

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