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ceb193
Pennsylvania
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 Posted - 12/17/2013 : 2:08:08 PM
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I got a call to do a closing for them and just turned them down after reading the horror stories about trying to get payments.
I hope you all keep well read on these bo bo signing agencies. Its not worth your time having to fight for your money, after you provide a service ...
Thank you to all who have posted about them. I appreciate it. |
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2013 : 07:57:29 AM
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Originally posted by amw333
I really need to print this list and have it with me at all times! I would love to be able to check out a new company on 123Notary.com before accepting a signing, but most of the time the phone call comes while I'm driving, or not close to a computer, and I feel if I don't respond right away the job will be assigned to someone else. With that said, I have accpted jobs and then later, after the fact, looked them up, only to discover that they have a terrible reputation. So far, I have yet to not be paid for a closing (out of over 200,) but there have been many that are slow to pay and require numerous follow-up, and that is very frustrating!
AnnMarie
I would be very careful in using this list. The list is very outdated, many of the companies are already out of business, some of them are very good companies to deal with. This list was compiled as one person's opinion and is not necessarily indicative of a pattern of good or bad.
Your best bet is to research any companies you sign up with or work with and develop your own g/b/u list for reference. I will also tell you that as much as I respect this website, the signing company list is not well maintained. Your better reference point for a company's reputation is Signing Central on Notary Rotary. It is, IMO, hands down the best reference point for whether a company is g/b/u to work with.
JMHO
Linda
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amw333
Virginia
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Posted - 07/19/2013 : 07:39:06 AM
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I really need to print this list and have it with me at all times! I would love to be able to check out a new company on 123Notary.com before accepting a signing, but most of the time the phone call comes while I'm driving, or not close to a computer, and I feel if I don't respond right away the job will be assigned to someone else. With that said, I have accpted jobs and then later, after the fact, looked them up, only to discover that they have a terrible reputation. So far, I have yet to not be paid for a closing (out of over 200,) but there have been many that are slow to pay and require numerous follow-up, and that is very frustrating!
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busynotary
Colorado
14 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2013 : 3:23:00 PM
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Add Expert Signings to your list of BAD companies to avoid.
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sjcnotary
California
7 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2013 : 11:17:57 PM
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Originally posted by sandiegocountynotary
***Urgent: Anyone that is owed money from Final Link or Home Signings, please contact me at notarysd1@gmail(dot)com . Let me know how much you are owed as well. There is a Detective that is on this case and the more people we are, the stonger the case and the faster we get these people. I can give you more info once you email me if you like. Thank you.
I am one of those people. Final Link is the absolute WORST, and I'd LOVE to help put them out of business for good.
Please feel free to contact me directly at sjcnotary@gmail.com |
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sjcnotary
California
7 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2013 : 11:15:23 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by sandiegocountynotary
***Urgent: Anyone that is owed money from Final Link or Home Signings, please contact me at notarysd1@gmail(dot)com . Let me know how much you are owed as well. There is a Detective that is on this case and the more people we are, the stonger the case and the faster we get these people. I can give you more info once you email me if you like. Thank you.
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Brana
California
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Posted - 04/18/2013 : 10:30:56 AM
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 12/23/2012 : 3:07:59 PM
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Originally posted by NotarySharon
You should add NREIS (National Real Estate Information Services) to your list of No No Companies. They used to be a decent company, but in the past year got to be slower and slower pay until finally, I am still owed a closing from back in February. I check in with them every month. The first time I called they informed me they were on 90 days to pay. In June I got the 90 day story again, and here it is December, and I'm still not paid. They admitted to having "Cash flow" problems. I suspect the cash they received flowed into someone's pocketbook before any notaries got paid.
Sharon Hopkins
I have no inside info as I haven't worked for them in several years, but someone on NotRot posted they are either out of business or in the process of shutting down.
No proof from me, no confirmation...just passing on info I just recently heard...you may want to check it out.
Linda
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NotarySharon
Missouri
26 Posts |
Posted - 12/23/2012 : 1:59:38 PM
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You should add NREIS (National Real Estate Information Services) to your list of No No Companies. They used to be a decent company, but in the past year got to be slower and slower pay until finally, I am still owed a closing from back in February. I check in with them every month. The first time I called they informed me they were on 90 days to pay. In June I got the 90 day story again, and here it is December, and I'm still not paid. They admitted to having "Cash flow" problems. I suspect the cash they received flowed into someone's pocketbook before any notaries got paid.
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sandiegocountynotary
California
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Posted - 12/06/2012 : 6:32:51 PM
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Marissa de Luna
California
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Posted - 09/11/2012 : 03:00:24 AM
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Final Link Signing Service
SOX AKA is also Sign on the X
I'm working on a class action but no hoping yet!
NO-NO-NO
NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THESE SIGNING COMPANIES!
Accurate Signing Services – OR (Michael Lanscano)
Admisistrative outsourcing
Banc Serv – low rates
Bay Breeze Title
CJ Signings – 45 days to pay
Cal Capital
Closing Quest
Countrywide
Document Closers Inc.
DocuServer Signing Agency (?)
Elaine with Tampa Bay
Express Financial Services
FNP Document Svcs
Fox Signings, Ambridge, PA
Integrity – Barry Silver: asks for illegal deeds
LIA Signing
Loan Closers
Loan Signers
Madison Credit Management
National Link/Service Link*
National Notary Network aka N3 Notary Svcs
National Signing Network - Brian Bayles
Navy Credit Union
Notaries Direct
Notary Pro
One Touch Closings – FL
*Service Link/National Link
Signing Pro
SOX aka Signature Plus
Speedy Closings
Top Notch Signing – not so top notch
United Notaries
United Signatures
US Title aka US Settlement Corp both in Cary, NC
This is a list I have compiled after emailing with different notaries from around the country. The list is growing. Sad.
Elizabeth F. Holtman
Please visit our signing agent certification page
http://www.123notary.com/certified-signing-agent.asp
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Diana
Pennsylvania
45 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2012 : 12:45:45 PM
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Mary,, Your right.. I have learned, now I tell the Signing agency that I will contact the lender if I do not receive payment. It works, either I get paid from the signing agency or the Lender sends me a check and follows up with a phone call!. Stick to your guns!! Call the title companies and/or lenders.. Good Luck everyone! quote:
Originally posted by estre68132
It just occurred to me that perhaps the way to deal with a bad signing company is to let the title company know that you are having trouble getting paid, because it reflects badly on the title company (and the lender) when that happens.
Mary K. Villalba
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pafrealtor
California
5 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 09:25:36 AM
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Thanks for the list--fortunately I have been busy when some
of these companies have called me--I am just sticking with the
ones that I have been working with and pay the best. Hard to find
Those anymore. I'll keep the list handy.
Again, Thanks
Pauline A. Fernandez
PaFernandez, Bilingual Mobile Notary
559-360-4940
PAFERNANDEZ |
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estre68132
Colorado
5 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2012 : 09:03:37 AM
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It just occurred to me that perhaps the way to deal with a bad signing company is to let the title company know that you are having trouble getting paid, because it reflects badly on the title company (and the lender) when that happens.
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Diana
Pennsylvania
45 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2012 : 07:38:51 AM
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They Are Actually Called "Speedy Closings" Frank Amari is the owner/manager.. They Do Not pay, you have to threaten them over and over to get paid.. I did alot of work for them in the beginning, but quickly learned my lesson... Now when Frank Calls, I tell him pay me via Pay-Pal before the closing or I can not work for you! That Simple.. Not worth my time and energy to chase them down for payment.. Good Luck to you! quote:
Originally posted by notaryslife
Re; Speedy Closings, there are several named this, you need to specify which one.
Sincerely yours,
Notary's Life
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notaryslife
California
348 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2012 : 09:48:09 AM
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Re; Speedy Closings, there are several named this, you need to specify which one.
Sincerely yours,
Notary's Life |
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notaryslife
California
348 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2012 : 09:45:35 AM
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I thought BancServe was top notch a while. They paid me $125 per signing a while and paid within two weeks. Then there was a problem signing that wasn't really my fault but the title companies they shafted me for.
BancServe is negotiable on its fees but claims it only offers $60 base + $25 edocs fee. If you're in a market that requires a higher fee if you're really good they will negotiate.
Sincerely yours,
Notary's Life |
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LawDog
Georgia
22 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2009 : 09:16:14 AM
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Ahhh...I just love it when people come together !! You know, Wikipedia is usually a pretty good "general" source of information, but remember that the contributions there are from "visitors" to the site, not from "experts" in the field.
That being said, what is found in Wikipedia is relatively correct on the surface, and I'm not what I'd consider an "expert", although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one time.
Simply put, a "tort" is a harm. A tort is damage, whether physical, emotional, financial, etc. Anything that can be measured as a loss can be a tort. Losing business with a company because of things others have said CAN be tortious, but those things said MUST be untrue (defamatory - either libelous or slanderous) and MUST be proven to be said (or "published").
Published is quite simple - posting comments on a message board forum, sending an email or other written/verbal communication to the contractor of the "offending" company, making public comments about the company, publishing a "Letter to the Editor" in the local paper; are all examples. Remember now, these cannot be actionable if the "published" information is TRUE. In other words, if one has PROOF that can be documented, such as in this case, (email, contract, voice recording, etc) that a task was agreed upon at a certain rate, and that the task was completed, yet not paid according to the agreement, then communicating that to a third party is not "tortious interference with a contract". It's communicating the TRUTH, pure and simple.
While it may be true that an independent contractor (a "business") has other avenues to resolve "business issues", many Title companies would want to know whether the signing companies they are doing business with are being honest and above-board. Threatening you with "tortious interference of a contractual relationship" is yelling fire in a crowded theater. It's a scare tactic.
Still, one has to ask oneself - is this a fight worth fighting ? If you WERE to contact the Title company, I can bet that the title company will most likely tell you that your agreement with DFS does not obligate them to settle your differences. And, they'd be right.
If it were me, I would continue collection efforts on a legal basis, try to cost them as much as you can having to at least READ your correspondence (manpower isn't cheap), try to cost them money in replying to your correspondence, and call them at every opportunity on their toll-free number. Pretty much Tit for Tat. Or, in the alternative - Let it go and move on. |
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LindaH
Florida
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gjk-fl
Florida
151 Posts |
Posted - 09/19/2009 : 3:14:55 PM
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Well I know what interference means, but had no idea what tortious meant, but this is what Merriam Webster says:
tortious: implying or involving tort
tort: a wrongful act other than a breach of contract for which relief may be obtained in the form of damages or an injunction
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conotary
Colorado
24 Posts |
Posted - 09/19/2009 : 10:58:15 AM
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| To those of you who have experience in these legal matters, please read my recent posting under Dynamic Field Services and give me your opinion of the threat of "tortious interference of contract" I have received from this company when telling them that I intend to report them to the title company for shorting payment. The guy owes me $50 which I could indeed write off, but like you I want to put these crooks out of business when they take advantage of people. |
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11789
California
28 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2009 : 10:43:21 AM
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| Ooops right off as in "Write off" LOL |
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11789
California
28 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2009 : 10:41:20 AM
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| HMMMMMMMM Jurisdiction for one. SS Sacramento, service performed in San Francisco and I live in Oakland. Two, filing fees ( 1/2 of what they owe me), Three..how many opportunities to make money would I miss out on pursuing the company who got paid but refuses to pay me? I'll have to right it off unfortunately and DEFINITELY AVOID THAT SIGNING SERVICE and of course move on. |
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2009 : 10:11:34 AM
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Originally posted by 11789
Hey Tom, could you just "feel stupid" about what you did? I did two signings and loss out and can't do anything about it? Moving on is a great equalizer. JMO
Why can't you do something about it? You're at least in the same state as SOX, making small claims a lot easier for you than many of the out-of-state notaries that got taken....moving on truly IS a great equalizer but moving on with a victory in small claims court is even sweeter. I know if I were in your circumstances I'd pursue a small claims action in a heartbeat.
JMO
Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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11789
California
28 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2009 : 09:57:42 AM
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| Hey Tom, could you just "feel stupid" about what you did? I did two signings and loss out and can't do anything about it? Moving on is a great equalizer. JMO |
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n/a
Oregon
5 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2007 : 03:44:33 AM
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NO-NO-NO
NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THESE SIGNING COMPANIES!
Accurate Signing Services – OR (Michael Lanscano)
Admisistrative outsourcing
Banc Serv – low rates
Bay Breeze Title
CJ Signings – 45 days to pay
Cal Capital
Closing Quest
Countrywide
Document Closers Inc.
DocuServer Signing Agency (?)
Elaine with Tampa Bay
Express Financial Services
FNP Document Svcs
Fox Signings, Ambridge, PA
Integrity – Barry Silver: asks for illegal deeds
LIA Signing
Loan Closers
Loan Signers
Madison Credit Management
National Link/Service Link*
National Notary Network aka N3 Notary Svcs
National Signing Network - Brian Bayles
Navy Credit Union
Notaries Direct
Notary Pro
One Touch Closings – FL
*Service Link/National Link
Signing Pro
SOX aka Signature Plus
Speedy Closings
Top Notch Signing – not so top notch
United Notaries
United Signatures
US Title aka US Settlement Corp both in Cary, NC
This is a list I have compiled after emailing with different notaries from around the country. The list is growing. Sad.
Elizabeth F. Holtman
Please visit our signing agent certification page
http://www.123notary.com/certified-signing-agent.asp |
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Dear Signing Agents,
List of Signing Companies to AVOID
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