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Topic author: bsnoopster
Subject: All Service Notary & Signings
Posted on: 03/04/2011 08:42:07 AM
Message:

I did a reverse mortgage for this company on 12/13/10 and have not received payment. I have tried via phone and email to get in touch but Jan Mondragon of All Service Notary & Signings has not returned my messages. Does anyone have any history with Jan Mondragon or All Service Notary & Signings? Also, the lender was Genworth Financial Home Equity Access Inc., Rancho Cordova, CA and the title company was PRC NOR CAL Division of Placer Title Co., Rocklin CA. Any info on any of the above would be extremely helpful in my pursual of payment? Thanks!

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Reply author: muskiebob
Replied on: 03/04/2011 12:21:23 PM
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She has a terrible rep. on other sites. Slow/no pay.


Reply author: bsnoopster
Replied on: 03/04/2011 5:08:42 PM
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What other sites? I find this one the most user friendly but what other sites do you find useful and user friendly if you don't mind me asking? Also as an update, I did hear from Jan Mondragon today and she told me my payment will go out this weekend. I will update this link if/when I receive it. Thanks so much, Barb


Reply author: esnotary
Replied on: 03/04/2011 8:17:06 PM
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I have done a couple of closings for Jan. She does eventually pay, but it is very slow and takes a lot of calls.


Reply author: muskiebob
Replied on: 03/07/2011 08:53:57 AM
Message:

Check out Notary Rotary


Reply author: bsnoopster
Replied on: 03/07/2011 09:48:05 AM
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Thanks, I am member of Notary Rotary and use that site too. I will update that site and this one when/if I receive Jan's payment that was supposed to have been sent this weekend. As a rule...if I don't receive payment after numerous tries, my first call is to the borrower to see if there were any "issues". I usually develop a nice relationship with them at the closing so they are happy to hear from me. I then tell them that I haven't rec'd payment yet and they are usually EXTREMELY concerned about that. I give them the L/O and TC numbers and ask them to call them. L/O's and TC's hate to get a call from the borrower regarding a Notary's payment and generally take action. That also puts the word out about the person who is trying to cheat you. I'll give Jan a week and then go from there. I remember these borrower's that I am awaiting payment on and I know they will be greatly concerned.


Reply author: LindaH
Replied on: 03/07/2011 1:23:51 PM
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by bsnoopster

Thanks, I am member of Notary Rotary and use that site too. I will update that site and this one when/if I receive Jan's payment that was supposed to have been sent this weekend. As a rule...if I don't receive payment after numerous tries, my first call is to the borrower to see if there were any "issues". I usually develop a nice relationship with them at the closing so they are happy to hear from me. I then tell them that I haven't rec'd payment yet and they are usually EXTREMELY concerned about that. I give them the L/O and TC numbers and ask them to call them. L/O's and TC's hate to get a call from the borrower regarding a Notary's payment and generally take action. That also puts the word out about the person who is trying to cheat you. I'll give Jan a week and then go from there. I remember these borrower's that I am awaiting payment on and I know they will be greatly concerned.



You shouldn't be going to the borrower with any of this - they paid the fee and have nothing to do with it any longer. Your gripe is with the SS that hired you and the title company that handled the loan - the LO may be able to help but you can get his number right from the 1003. There's absolutely no reason to be contacting the borrowers after the fact - maybe there were issues that were resolved - those aren't your problem. The only thing you need to know is "did the security instrument that you notarized get recorded"...if it did, then your loan funded and barring notary error you should be paid in full.

Instead of getting the borrowers upset and dragging them into it, why not just draft a demand letter with a copy to the title company and, to push it further, a copy to the regulatory agency in the state for the title company. That should get someone's attention. Hopefully you'll be paid, but for all I've read about this person, it's obvious she doesn't care - she's a very very slow payer. I don't think she's going to care that much - except she'll possibly lose the title company as a client -

MHO

Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


Reply author: vtnotary05
Replied on: 03/12/2011 4:41:07 PM
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A few words for this woman Jan Mon"dragon"

I may be having an off week, but I have essentially had it with chasing down payments. Ms. Mondragon was the straw that broke the camels back so-to-speak.

What a run around, I inquired as to when payment would be issued, I was told, "Oh I'm issuing checks today and it will go out the mail tomorrow." Now wouldn't that imply that she was sending me a check for a closing? BTW this all took place on February 27th, 2011. So, you'd think I'd get a check in a couple of days... but noooo.... March 6th, I sent her another email inquiring as to where and when was the check mailed. She replies that she "processed the invoice but it's Wells Fargo who issues the check and it takes up to 5 business days..."

Needless-to-say, we had a VERY uncomfortable conversation via email following her above stated response.

I'm sick of chasing the money down. I think that 123 Notary should start putting somekind of safety system on this site, i.e. if you're going to look for a notary you the signing company must list all of the procedures and contact information including the states they are licensed in, as it's about time I feel that we take some protective measures.

Let's face it folks, if we don't get the signatures, NO ONE gets PAID! It's time we had a little insurance for US!


Reply author: PWinFL
Replied on: 03/13/2011 05:06:06 AM
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by vtnotary05

BTW this all took place on February 27th, 2011. So, you'd think I'd get a check in a couple of days... but noooo.... March 6th, I sent her another email inquiring as to where and when was the check mailed.


You can't be serious. Looking for payment to be in your hands in a week! I'm not defending this person, but I think your rant is quite a bit premature. Standard business payments are typically net 30. So if you did the signing and submitted your invoice on 2/27, I wouldn't expect payment until 3/27 at the earliest, assuming there were no other indication that payment would be made sooner or later.


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and I may not give legal advice or accept fees for legal advice.


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Reply author: LindaH
Replied on: 03/13/2011 07:05:45 AM
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I think she was referring to her discussion about payment occurring on February 27, 2011, not the signing (which is a coup in itself since that was a Sunday)...I believe she's saying she was told *on 2/27* that payment was going out that day.

I'm curious when the closing took place.

Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


Reply author: Lee-AR
Replied on: 03/13/2011 08:57:21 AM
Message:

OP said signing was on 12/13 and 'dacheckisindamail' on 2/27


Reply author: bsnoopster
Replied on: 03/13/2011 08:58:21 AM
Message:

UPDATE-I receieved the check from Jan Mondragon yesterday as promised via Wells Fargo. I haven't deposited it yet but it looks like an official bank issued check so I don't expect any issues.

To VTnotary05: No, you are not having an off week, it is frustrating beyond belief! I use to be in awe that a company would knowingly hire you knowing they have no intention of paying but after closing almost 7000 loans, I am no longer in awe.

To LindaJ: You state that the only thing I need to know is did the security instrument get recorded. Actually, while that is interesting, it isn't what I need to know. The thing I need to know is did I do my job correctly AND if so, when will my payment go out! I appreciate your comments, but my strategy gets action, whether I call the borrowers or not. My bottom line is I will do whatever it takes to get my fee. And no offense (after all, we are all on the same side, getting paid) but if she may "possibly lose the title company as a client"...isn't that sort of the point! You can use whatever strategy you want and believe me, I've tried them all, but I'll use whatever technique I need to in order to get paid.

I'll keep you posted if I have any issues with the check that I received.

I think a good idea for this and other Notary Forums would be to issue an abbreviated monthly update that we can printout and keep with us regarding negative issues with companies...maybe a grading system like a 1 to 10 type of thing. Just a thought.



Reply author: bsnoopster
Replied on: 03/13/2011 09:00:00 AM
Message:

"dacheckisindamail"...good one! LOL


Reply author: LindaH
Replied on: 03/13/2011 12:10:39 PM
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee-AR

OP said signing was on 12/13 and 'dacheckisindamail' on 2/27





Two different posters, Lee....bsnoopster (the OP) and vtnotary05 (who had the 2/27 discussion)..

Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


Reply author: LindaH
Replied on: 03/13/2011 12:25:25 PM
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by bsnoopster

UPDATE-I receieved the check from Jan Mondragon yesterday as promised via Wells Fargo. I haven't deposited it yet but it looks like an official bank issued check so I don't expect any issues.

To VTnotary05: No, you are not having an off week, it is frustrating beyond belief! I use to be in awe that a company would knowingly hire you knowing they have no intention of paying but after closing almost 7000 loans, I am no longer in awe.

To LindaJ: You state that the only thing I need to know is did the security instrument get recorded. Actually, while that is interesting, it isn't what I need to know. The thing I need to know is did I do my job correctly AND if so, when will my payment go out! I appreciate your comments, but my strategy gets action, whether I call the borrowers or not. My bottom line is I will do whatever it takes to get my fee. And no offense (after all, we are all on the same side, getting paid) but if she may "possibly lose the title company as a client"...isn't that sort of the point! You can use whatever strategy you want and believe me, I've tried them all, but I'll use whatever technique I need to in order to get paid.

I'll keep you posted if I have any issues with the check that I received.

I think a good idea for this and other Notary Forums would be to issue an abbreviated monthly update that we can printout and keep with us regarding negative issues with companies...maybe a grading system like a 1 to 10 type of thing. Just a thought.






My point about losing the title company was not made out of sympathy for her - yes that IS the point - that's why I said report to the title company and drag title into it via their state regulatory agency. They won't be happy she's not paying the notaries and maybe, just maybe, she WILL lose them as a client - eventually putting her out of business.

Read my entire statement about the security instrument: That's IS really all you need to know because if what YOU notarized did record, then your loan funded and, as I said, barring notary error you should be paid in full.

And we'll have to agree to disagree but returning to the borrowers to address this company's nonpayment issues is wrong - they've paid your fee. They have no business relationship with All Service Notary or this Jan Mondragon so they have no responsibility to pay you or help you get paid. There's no recourse against them.

I may not have 7000 closings under my belt but I've been in this business for over 25 years - been doing loan signings for almost 5 here in Florida - only 2 unpaid invoices....one closed its doors as an LLC here (no recourse) and one is in bankruptcy....so I guess my system's working pretty well too.

And yes, we're all on the same side...and this company's business practices are ... well, bad. I appreciate reading what everyone has gone through and how it was resolved and I know better than to answer the phone for them thanks to all of you ... :)


Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


Reply author: vtnotary05
Replied on: 03/14/2011 05:43:48 AM
Message:

To clariify, "the closing took place on January 31st."
The email transaction regarding payment took place on February 27th.


I'm done with these half-a$$ed companies. If they're not one of my regulars, they get the following speech (that being, after I inquire about their payment policy) "if I have to chase down my payment I will file an complaint with the secretary of state, on you and the lender."

This seems to work, as two things happen,i.e. i get paid, and secondly the last thing they want to do is ban B.o.A or any other lender from doing business in the state.

But like I said, it's becoming a huge HASSLE!


Reply author: Midlandgolf
Replied on: 05/06/2011 10:33:07 AM
Message:

I did a last minute Rev Mort on Jan. 25 and still have not received payment. I e-mailed twice and called. If I don't receive payment by next week I will contact the lo.


Reply author: LindaH
Replied on: 05/06/2011 1:16:37 PM
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Midlandgolf

I did a last minute Rev Mort on Jan. 25 and still have not received payment. I e-mailed twice and called. If I don't receive payment by next week I will contact the lo.



Why wait til next week? You're already over 90 days - no need to wait any longer. Not sure how much help the LO is going to be to you -as long as you're sure the loan you closed did record (and therefore, it funded) I'd be contacting title and letting them know I haven't been paid - and sending demand letters to the company AND title with a final date for payment...



Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


Reply author: Lucille4044
Replied on: 05/10/2011 3:19:24 PM
Message:

I did a reverse mortgage for All Services Notary & Signings on March 3, 2011. I faxed them twice to let them know that they are past due, as if they don't know. It has been 70 days now and I still have not heard from them. I have done previous signings for them with no problem. I definitely will not do another signing for them.

Lucille J. Frost


Reply author: LindaH
Replied on: 05/19/2011 1:37:15 PM
Message:

I just received a phone call from Jan Mondragon regarding this thread and my posts...

For the record, I've never worked for her or her company. My comments were general in nature as far as collection efforts are concerned. I stand by my statements.

Not sure what this disclaimer does to help any of you get paid but, for whatever reason, it was important to her that this be said.

And to Jan - please do not ever call me again.

Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


Reply author: 8702
Replied on: 06/05/2011 1:05:05 PM
Message:

I to completed a closing for Jan Mondragon, at All Service Notary in February. I have been given the big run around as you all have. I am also contacting Premier Reverse Closings in Rocklin, CA since they are responsible for hiring Jan. I hope I get through to them that they should never use her services again.


Reply author: LindaH
Replied on: 06/05/2011 4:43:59 PM
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by 8702

I to completed a closing for Jan Mondragon, at All Service Notary in February. I have been given the big run around as you all have. I am also contacting Premier Reverse Closings in Rocklin, CA since they are responsible for hiring Jan. I hope I get through to them that they should never use her services again.



What a shame that Premier Reverse is now using SS's...they used to contract with me directly and were a dream to work with. Maybe your contacting them about this will have them re-thinking this business decision. We can hope...



Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


Reply author: n/a
Replied on: 06/05/2011 7:02:28 PM
Message:

<<Not sure what this disclaimer does to help any of you get paid but, for whatever reason, it was important to her that this be said.>>

Seriously, have to agree with you Linda...IMO, she needs to be paying her nsa's what is owed to them so that her name isn't smeared all over the notary boards!


Reply author: 11268
Replied on: 06/10/2011 11:09:02 AM
Message:

Jan called me 3 weeks ago to tell me she is sorry she has been sick and a check will be out this week. (on a past due of well over 90 days)I have yet to receive the check. Why bother to call me Jan? Do not take any assignments from her.

Wendy Mills


Reply author: vtnotary05
Replied on: 06/10/2011 11:29:41 AM
Message:

Wendy, scroll down and read my saga with Jan "Mondragon." From now one if anyone get's a call from her, get paid upfront!


quote:
Originally posted by 11268

Jan called me 3 weeks ago to tell me she is sorry she has been sick and a check will be out this week. (on a past due of well over 90 days)I have yet to receive the check. Why bother to call me Jan? Do not take any assignments from her.

Wendy Mills


Reply author: 8702
Replied on: 06/10/2011 2:53:55 PM
Message:

Just an update. I just recieved a check from Jan Mondragon today after speaking to her last week. She replied to my email I sent regarding payment and me contacting the escrow service that she had contracted with for this closing. She was sorry about the delay and felt that it was Wells Fargo's payroll who dropped the ball. Either way, I have a check. Hope its good.


Reply author: LindaH
Replied on: 07/07/2011 3:31:06 PM
Message:

For those of you owed money...

Info posted under a separate thread, copied and pasted here with the permission of the original poster, Shoshana Roller:

"Posted - 07/07/2011 : 2:58:41 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jan is no longer in the signing service biz. Her title company has terminated her. I guess you ought to contact her if you want to get paid. TC says they are not responsible since they paid her.

It's kind of sad that we have to go to these extremes to get paid what is due us.

Shoshana Roller "

Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell


Reply author: ammnotary
Replied on: 08/02/2011 09:33:50 AM
Message:

I am writing to let you know that if you are expecting payment that most likely the check will be returned for insufficient funds. Mine was returned yesterday and it was a little embarrassing for me to have my bank contact me on this issue.

Amc


Reply author: Lucille4044
Replied on: 08/03/2011 4:17:18 PM
Message:

I did finally get paid from her. I can't remember just how long it was, but from my previous post it was over 70 days old. When I got a check, it was her personal check and I was afraid that it might come back to me, but it didn't. She had told me that she had been on vacation, I believe, and gave me the impression that she didn't know that I had sent past due notices to her. But I finally got paid, that is the main thing! I wonder who she is working for now?


Reply author: n/a
Replied on: 09/12/2011 1:15:11 PM
Message:

i've been playing the role of a collector and calling for payment on some signings i did for her back in june 2011. We're in september now and i still haven't been paid! I've been calling her and emailing her for weeks now, i've recently been calling her phone everyday at least 4x's a day, hopefully she'll answer or send me my payment soon! She is the worst person to do business with! Jan Mandragon, you should have your license revoked!


Reply author: Harding Goodman
Replied on: 09/16/2011 09:53:44 AM
Message:

Finally, after all the promises, calls, emails, turned it over to a Collection Agency and reported both Jan and her company to all three credit bureaus. Probably won't result in any payment, but I at least feel better.

An update on 10/10/11. I received a check in the correct amount from Jan on 10/7. I was surprised. But I commend her for following thru on her promises - even if it took a long time.


Reply author: tibertlm
Replied on: 06/04/2013 8:10:09 PM
Message:

She currently works for Century 21 in Lincoln, CA. Here is her website: http://www.jan.mondragon.c21selectgroup.com/agents/About-Me

Jan contracted with me in May and June of 2011 to perform loan signings for three Reverse Mortgages as follows:

B*****s
File #2301-44806
Genworth loan #3000022302
Fee
$130

P****r
File #2301-45418
Wells Fargo loan #0321926594
Fee
$100

Mo*****se
File #2301-46440
Wells Fargo loan #0323172759
Fee
$125



At this time, she was doing business as:

Jan Mondragon

All Service Notary & Signings

P.O. Box 1655

Lincoln, CA 95648-1655

Phone: 916-797-0402

Fax: 916-778-7153



She has never responded to any form of communication over the last two years about why she never paid me for these.



She is listed as a California Notary with the following info, so is still an active Notary:

Mondragon, Jan

Po Box 1655 Lincoln CA 95648 -1655

County Code #31

Commission #1999886

Exp Date: 12/03/2016



I have learned during all of this, that she was already hiring notaries and not paying them for these assignments. At the time she hired me, she already knew she was not going to ever pay me. She agreed in writing to pay me and agreed to the stipulations that not doing so was a criminal act in defrauding a Public Official.


Reply author: tibertlm
Replied on: 06/04/2013 9:11:15 PM
Message:

You can go to this website and register a complain with the CA SOS. Reference her name and notary commission #1999886

http://www.sos.ca.gov/webcontact/general/question.aspx


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