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edelske

New York
815 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2013 :  5:05:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Most of us require the "industry standard" of Government Issued Photo ID to qualify for notarization (not personally known or credible witness). How about this offer? The lady shows me her ONLY ID - a grocery store "Customer Reward Card". It was either Winn Dixie or Safeway Club - not sure which. I tell her it's not Govt. issued, has no photo nor is there any NAME on the card whatsoever! She responds: Oh, I can prove it's mine by using it - they print my name on the receipt - all we have to do is go to the store and make a purchase!

Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com

Edited by - edelske on 06/21/2013 03:49:43 AM
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Lee-AR

Arkansas
678 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2013 :  03:51:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've got 2 more that I just remembered:
1. A 'single lady' who introduced me to her husband and proceeds to show me the photo half of what had to be a 20 year old DL. Umm--no.

2. Went to a signing and the man's DL was nowhere near the name on the docs, so it was a no-go. Company tries to send me back a couple weeks later but I looked at the docs before printing and realized that some docs had his name as before and some had his DL name...
so they expect me to notarize Tom Doe and John Doe??? I gave that one back.

If you don't value your time and experience, nobody else will.
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TGS1985

California
208 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2013 :  12:52:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit TGS1985's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I had a Settlement Company that wanted me to notarized a signer with non-valid ID (ID had a different last name). She had no other form of acceptable ID and the Settlement Company had no interest in scheduling two witnesses (For the record, I did confirm with the signer ahead of time that she had valid ID and she told me she had a Driver's License with same name on the docs. What she ended up really having was an Arizona State ID with her previous married name).

The rep told the age old line that other notaries have notarized her before, in which I responded just because they did it doesn't mean it wasn't illegal. At that point he told me they'll just hire another notary which I said was fine but I that will be paid a cancellation fee which he blew me off on.

When I got back to my office I proceeded to email the company a copy of pages 8 and 9 of the 2012 California Notary Handbook which detail the state's ID requirements. I also might have mention something about bringing such information with me to small claims when companies refused to pay me. I was paid my cancellation fee soon after :).



- Tyler Soares -
Notary Public & Loan Signing Agent
www.mobilestocktonnotary.com
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Lee-AR

Arkansas
678 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2013 :  10:54:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A local company for whom I'd been the NSA many times on many loans (thru a TC) called and said they wanted to hire me direct.
I get there and what they want me to do is 'fix' another notary's errors! And, you're correct, Ken, in that I never heard from them again... but karma was working as they were out of business a year later.

If you don't value your time and experience, nobody else will.
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24639

California
2 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2013 :  2:45:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I called to confirm a refi appointment with a borrower and the man told me that I was going to "turn my head" while he signed his wife's name because she had parkinsons disease and couldn't sign all those pages. I asked him if he was going to take my son to school every day after I went to jail.(I know I was being overly dramatic, here) He told me that the other notary didn't have a problem with it.(oy!) His wife was incredibly mad at me for making her sign her own name. I asked the husband why he didn't just get a POA and he told me that he didn't want to take "that" away from her. Too bad, because that day is coming sooner than later and not dealing with it head on is irresponsible.imho

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IntegrityNotary

69 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2013 :  10:01:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last year I received an urgent last minute request for a loan modification from some unknown financial outfit out of California. The man on the phone had a foreign accent and was difficult to understand. He wanted to know if I was available for a quick "signing" and would not disclose upfront what type of assignment it was. I didn't find out until I opened the document file that it was a loan mod AND they wanted money up front. I immediately called and emailed him back to decline. He replied with a simple "ok, thanks" and I never heard from them again.

For this reason I now screen every call that comes in and ask specific questions about the order. Is it a refi, a purchase, are there faxbacks, etc.? The term "signing" is just too vague for me and tends to be a trap (like can you 'help' us do something for nothing, possibly illegal?)
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LindaH

Florida
1754 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2013 :  1:40:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got a call one Saturday in my car from a guy frantic to find someone to notarize loan docs for him. They came in that day - they were supposed to have been in on Friday and he REALLY needs to get this done today. Told him I'd could meet with him in about 20 minutes.

He then goes on to say okay, good, - like I said they were supposed to be here yesterday, so I'll need you to sign and date everything for yesterday. I told him there's no way I could do that, to which he replied "that's what I figured; but my wife is a notary and I thought you'd do her a favor"

I went home.



Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com
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edelske

New York
815 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2013 :  08:30:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As a mobile notary I sometimes (make that too often) receive requests for illegal activity. They range from the simple request to notarize via fax to backdating. Let's have some fun with this topic. I'm going to give my "best" one with the hope others add to this topic.

The offer was made from a very respectful business man. I have done frequent work for this person. Mostly the processing of Apostilles. He was going to be "on assignment" overseas; but, for his business, he still need frequent Apostille processing. For whatever reason, he needed the Apostille to be issued in NY State. But he would not be available to sign the routine (the same as I had frequently processed) document as he would be in Europe.

He wanted to avoid a transatlantic flight, and the time and costs involved. He requested me to accept via FedEx original signed documents that I would notarize and Apostille process; without any personal appearance. As we had a "personal" relationship I no longer required seeing his ID - "Personally Known" applied.

He reasoned that status could be "expanded" to "not present" without any harm being done. His request was made with a "you will probably not agree to what I am about to suggest....". He was right. However, at a thousand dollars per (he needed about one a month) shipment; it was a large offer. You are right - I declined.

He told me that he would prefer me to do the processing, but knew of a different notary who would probably succumb to the high pay. My parting words were to advise against his planned course of action and to find an alternative that was legal; as he too would be quite guilty of the fraud. I never heard from him again.


Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
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