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jbelmont
California
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cowgirl
Missouri
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Posted - 04/28/2010 : 12:21:05 PM
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quote: Originally posted by jeninohio
I haven't heard from them but would love it if they'd call. I'll just add the hundreds that they owe me from 21st Century on to the new fee.
Jennifer Cotsmire Notary Signing Agent
yes they are running under another name it is Fidelity National Lending Services a few doors down from the other address |
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jeninohio
Ohio
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Posted - 04/18/2010 : 6:27:20 PM
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I haven't heard from them but would love it if they'd call. I'll just add the hundreds that they owe me from 21st Century on to the new fee.
Jennifer Cotsmire Notary Signing Agent |
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Angel444
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Posted - 04/15/2010 : 05:03:30 AM
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Does anyone know if they are operating under a different name? I know that is a part of their game plan once people find out about them under their old name. |
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n/a
Indiana
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 08:20:17 AM
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quote: Originally posted by CopperheadVA
From what I've heard, your tax guy is correct. My understanding is that you can't take it as a loss because it was never reported as income.
However, if you use the accrual method of reporting your income - where you report the income as soon as the job is completed (before you actually receive payment) - then (this is just what I have read on other chat boards and is not meant as financial or tax advice) you CAN deduct as a loss, but all that does is bring you back to a basis of $0.00 income for that particular job. Either way, my understanding is that we cannot reduce our reportable income by the amount of an uncollected debt.
Please, someone who is more knowledgeable about this stuff respond and explain this in more detail!
CopperheadVA
If you use the cash method of accounting you can't claim the "loss" but you can still claim the mileage and any other direct expense you had that was associated with that signing. |
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n/a
Indiana
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Posted - 11/09/2009 : 08:17:21 AM
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quote: Originally posted by 9633
Could someone out there provide me with their (Fidelity/21st Century) information - fax, email, address? Thanks. Joanne docs@adksigning.com
Good luck trying to collect from these SCAM companies. I didn't get paid for 2 "loan mod signings" that I did. I heard they were raided by the FBI in late September. I heard this from the "real" Fidelity National when I called to report them. They told me that Fidelity National Legal Services/21st Century Legal Services are in no way associated with them. |
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LindaH
Florida
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Posted - 10/29/2009 : 09:04:57 AM
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If you did work for them you should have this info in your confirmation.....but here's some info listed elsewhere at least for 21st Century - there are numerous other names they go by but most trace right back to this info - can't confirm how good it still is since they were raided by the FBI in September, but here you go:
9607 Business Center Dr Bldg 13 #D Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 Business: 909.483.1748 Fax: 909.111.1111 Toll free: 888.483.1748 Website: http://www.21stcenturyremod.com
Good Luck!!
Linda www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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9633
New York
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Posted - 10/29/2009 : 05:49:24 AM
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Could someone out there provide me with their (Fidelity/21st Century) information - fax, email, address? Thanks. Joanne docs@adksigning.com |
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n/a
Massachusetts
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 06:18:48 AM
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They are a bad company. The have not paid me for a signing I wnet to on July 21st |
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2009 : 07:20:11 AM
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quote: Originally posted by a1etron
.... And they did authorize me to use their account how else did I get their account number.
They authorized you to use their account number for the return of their documents, not to FedEx them your invoice - in your own words...."I sent them my invoice attention accounting dept, using their FEDEX account to send my invoice next day air. I wrote them a letter along with my invoice telling them I will use their fedex account to send my invoice every week next day air until it is is paid"
Glad this worked out for you, Ed, and you got paid - but I'd not suggest this method to anyone for the reasons I previously posted. You're lucky they didn't dock your pay the cost of the next day air fees which, IMO, they'd have every right to do.
MHO
Linda www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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a1etron
Florida
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Posted - 10/16/2009 : 06:20:32 AM
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I used 21st century as the sender and receiver, and being named in a civil suit and criminal suit for a $30 FEDEX ??? PWin have had you paranoia/sanity level checked lately. And they did authorize me to use their account how else did I get their account number. Plus these guys are losers and they are gone. I got paid for my 21st Century work, them, how bout you?
Edward Fadden Orlando Notary Covering all of Central Florida, Orange-Lake-Seminole-Osceola and Volusia Counties. 407-619-7777 orlandonotary@embarqmail.com |
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Angel444
11 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2009 : 04:35:14 AM
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As I have stated before, I did three jobs for them way back before I realized what they really were. I still have not been paid for two and I am charging that up to experience. Bottom line for me - does not matter to me whether they are legal to operate in my state or not - I have to go to bed with myself at night and I like to sleep with a clear conscience. I can not do that if I work for 21st Century - no ifs, ands or buts. |
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PWinFL
Florida
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Posted - 10/15/2009 : 4:10:13 PM
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Besides that, they could claim you were not authorized to use their account number. In which case, criminal and civil suits may be launched naming you as the defendant.
Never drive any faster than your guardian angel can fly.
I am not an attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Florida, and I may not give legal advice or accept fees for legal advice.
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2009 : 2:13:48 PM
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quote: Originally posted by a1etron
I to was owed money from 21st. What I did to get paid was I sent them my invoice attention accounting dept, using their FEDEX account to send my invoice next day air. I wrote them a letter along with my invoice telling them I will use their fedex account to send my invoice every week next day air until it is is paid. I received my check 5 days later. Face it they have to pay FEDEX and they dont want this news getting out. So now you now how to get paid send your invoice to accounting using their fedex it worked for me be sure and include the letter.
Edward Fadden Orlando Notary Covering all of Central Florida, Orange-Lake-Seminole-Osceola and Volusia Counties. 407-619-7777 orlandonotary@embarqmail.com
I would not do this....they can either refuse delivery OR accept it and dispute the charges as unauthorized - and guess who's going to get the chargeback? Especially with this company who's probably going under anyway - raided by FBI, license yanked in CA, barred from conducting business in numerous states....
Just don't take work from them...period.
MHO
Linda www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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a1etron
Florida
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Posted - 10/15/2009 : 06:57:38 AM
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I to was owed money from 21st. What I did to get paid was I sent them my invoice attention accounting dept, using their FEDEX account to send my invoice next day air. I wrote them a letter along with my invoice telling them I will use their fedex account to send my invoice every week next day air until it is is paid. I received my check 5 days later. Face it they have to pay FEDEX and they dont want this news getting out. So now you now how to get paid send your invoice to accounting using their fedex it worked for me be sure and include the letter.
Edward Fadden Orlando Notary Covering all of Central Florida, Orange-Lake-Seminole-Osceola and Volusia Counties. 407-619-7777 orlandonotary@embarqmail.com |
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2009 : 06:38:15 AM
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From taxguide.completetax.com
Cash Method Accounting
http://taxguide.completetax.com/text/Q11_2206.asp
The cash method of accounting is very simple to use, because it's usually obvious when you receive money from a customer or other payer, or when you pay an expense with cash, credit card or a check. When money comes in or goes out, it's recorded and recognized for tax purposes. By contrast, the accrual method requires you to recognize transactions when they occur, not necessarily when the cash changes hands.
Accrual Method Accounting
http://taxguide.completetax.com/text/Q11_2208.asp
Under the accrual method, you record business income when a sale occurs, whether it be the delivery of a product or the rendering of a service on your part, regardless of when you get paid. You record an expense when you receive goods or services, even though you may not pay for them until later.
Linda www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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CopperheadVA
Virginia
420 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2009 : 05:51:56 AM
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From what I've heard, your tax guy is correct. My understanding is that you can't take it as a loss because it was never reported as income.
However, if you use the accrual method of reporting your income - where you report the income as soon as the job is completed (before you actually receive payment) - then (this is just what I have read on other chat boards and is not meant as financial or tax advice) you CAN deduct as a loss, but all that does is bring you back to a basis of $0.00 income for that particular job. Either way, my understanding is that we cannot reduce our reportable income by the amount of an uncollected debt.
Please, someone who is more knowledgeable about this stuff respond and explain this in more detail!
CopperheadVA
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jeninohio
Ohio
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Posted - 10/15/2009 : 05:26:20 AM
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My tax guy says I can't write off non-payment though that didn't sound correct to me. In the past, non-payments have gone in the trash after a year though I did just hire a collections attorney to help me sort through this nonsense.
Jennifer Cotsmire Notary Signing Agent |
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tomthenotary
Maryland
82 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2009 : 6:58:21 PM
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Write it off!!! As I've stated in the past, if you are not notarizing documents you are acting as no more than a courier, the companies requesting your services realizes "generally you understand the documents being being presented,although, you should never attempt to explain the content to any degree" just my opinion , stick to the legitimate companies who appreciate your expertises as a Notary Public. |
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jeninohio
Ohio
36 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2009 : 6:31:54 PM
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How do we get our claims for monies owed into this suit?
Jennifer Cotsmire Notary Signing Agent |
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n/a
California
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Posted - 10/14/2009 : 6:20:32 PM
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This is probably the slime hiding behind the corp.
Andrea Ramirez
Corporation 21ST CENTURY LEGAL SERVICES, INC. Number: C3135933 Date Filed: 12/5/2008 Status: active Jurisdiction: California Address 9340 BASELINE RD STE 105 RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA 91701 Agent for Service of Process ANDREA RAMIREZ 9340 BASELINE RD STE 105 RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA 91701
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2009 : 09:52:19 AM
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quote: Originally posted by ccwillia1
....I just go paid for work in Aug and the check bounced. They also still owe me additional monies from other work....
The loan modification application work you've done for them is illegal in this state - not sure how complicit that makes you but sure hope for your sake that any of your signers who decide to sue this company or their many and varied aliases for fraud don't list you as a defendant.
And trust me - it does happen - there's a poster on another forum who's an attorney - does signings on the side I guess - she's named as a defendant because the signer sued the modification company. She posted, in part "person claims that he was part of a Foreclosure Rescue Scam & I just happened to be the lucky person to notarize his paperwork".....
Good Luck.
Linda www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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Edited by - LindaH on 10/10/2009 09:59:27 AM |
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n/a
Florida
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Posted - 10/10/2009 : 09:24:26 AM
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Yes... They have now changed there name to Fidelity National Legal Services.. Still doing loan modification.. I just go paid for work in Aug and the check bounced. They also still owe me additional monies from other work.... They are being investigated by the FBI.. if they owe any money please contact the Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Sheriffs Dept @ 909 477 2800 or 909 945 4440 |
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jeninohio
Ohio
36 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 12:06:35 PM
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I took work from East Coast because they "promised" they'd get me paid from 21st Century. I don't know what I was thinking! That check bounced too! It also makes me angry that when you call the bank that the check is drawn on, they won't even tell you if it's a valid account. I don't want specific personal information - just tell me if the account is even open! They now owe me $205 which includes 4 bounced check fees. After 7 years in this business, how did I fall for this. I guess I wanted to believe that they were going to help people.
Jennifer Cotsmire Notary Signing Agent |
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tomthenotary
Maryland
82 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2009 : 9:11:16 PM
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HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALOLOLOLOLOL, CROOKS, SHUT THEM DOWN!!!!!!! best post I've seen all week> |
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HeatherD
Washington
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 10:11:52 AM
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Is anyone familiar with 21st Century Legal Services who does loan modifications?
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