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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 11/17/2006 :  11:53:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Venue is the section of the notary certificate ( such as for Jurats or Acknowledgements ) where you put the COUNTY. You ALWAYS put the county you are performing the notarization in in the venue regardless of what the lender says otherwise you are not following correct notary procedure. If you don't know the county, then you can research it.

Sometimes you might be notarizing a borrower in a different county from where the property is. That has never been an issue in my experience.

The recorded documents ( like the Deed of Trust ) would be recorded in the county where the house is situated regardless of where you did the notary.
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dfye@mcttelecom.com

New Hampshire
681 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2006 :  12:40:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit dfye@mcttelecom.com's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Please check this link for a sample acknowledgment for the State of Oklahoma. http://www.sos.state.ok.us/forms/NotaryGUIDE2004.pdf

It is a common practice for lenders to leave the state and county blank at the very top of the document. This can be very confusing for the notary. I have learned over the years (straight from the lenders mouths) that the county at the top of the document should be the one the property is located in. The text below it discusses the property so the county needs to reflect the text.

At the bottom of the document is the acknowledgment you will be notarizing. In this instance, you need to put the county you are in next to your acknowledgment as you the notary and the borrower is attesting to that fact as well.

SAMPLE

ERROR AND OMISSIONS/COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT

STATE OF OKLAHOMA
COUNTY OF OKLAHOMA (county of property)

In consideration of FILTHY RICH BANK (“lender”) extending funds (the “Loan”), in connection with the closing of the property located at

123 Middle Class Street
Woodlawn Park, OK

the undersigned (“Borrower”) agrees, upon request of Lender, its successors or assigns (“Note Holder”), or upon request of any person acting on behalf of Note Holder, to fully cooperate . . .

Date: ____________ ___________________
Borrower

STATE OF OKLAHOMA
COUNTY OF TULSA (county you are in)

Signed and attested before me on this ____ day of April, 2006 by _________________ (borrower).


______________________
Notary Signature

_______________________
Title or Rank

(My commission expires: )
(My commission nuber: )

Please note that the formatting of the above sample does not reflect accuracy. Please follow the format from the link above (The notary public guide for Oklahoma). Email me if you are still confused.

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n/a

Oklahoma
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Posted - 04/14/2006 :  2:30:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please, just one more clarification on the county.
On documents such as "Error and Omissions/Compliance Agreement & Affidavit of Title"....There is a place for state & county at the beginning of the document (Usually right after the title of the document), then the body of the document and finishing with the place to notarize. The area where I'm placing the notary stamp will be state and then county where seated during signing. My county of commission under my signature. What about county & state at the beginning of document? I've been told that should also be county signing is taking place. Someone else said it should be county property is located in. I'm in Oklahoma. Thanks for your help.

dm
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Renee

Michigan
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Posted - 04/02/2006 :  8:51:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Renee's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am editing my previous reply because I was WRONG

Yes, MI DOES most definitely require the notary to include "Acting in the county of ______"


Edited by - Renee on 04/05/2006 05:56:07 AM
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n/a

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Posted - 04/02/2006 :  10:09:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

In Michigan, it is required that you place the words, "Acting in the county of ________________" for each notary act. However, MOST notaries still do not do this. In fact, at my on closing recently, the notary (at the bank) did not do this. Everything went fine, but I knew it was in error.
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whitesatin007

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Posted - 03/03/2006 :  01:37:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit whitesatin007's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the reply dfye. I looked into it and I have reached the same conclusion as you. Now I put the county where I'm actually doing the signing. I feel much better getting this straightened out so I can do it properly. Had no idea I was doing it wrong before until I read this thread. I'm surprised I had no negative repercussions for doing it wrong for so long.
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dfye@mcttelecom.com

New Hampshire
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Posted - 02/12/2006 :  10:07:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit dfye@mcttelecom.com's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Try looking through this website. http://www.ss.ca.gov/business/notary/notary.htm
I believe that you need to place the county you are in at the top of the acknowledgment and your information (name, state, expiration date, etc.)goes under your signature line.

Legal Eagle Para Professional Services
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whitesatin007

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Posted - 02/02/2006 :  09:35:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit whitesatin007's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Okay. So let me see if I am understanding this correctly. I have been doing loan signings for several years but am always open to learning new things that I never knew before.

I am a notary signing agent in California. My commission is in Contra Costa County. I live in Sacramento County because of a recent move. I perform signings in Sacramento, San Joaquin and sometimes Solano Counties (as well as others on an occassional basis). When the document asks for my State, I state "California" and when it asks for County, I state "Contra Costa" because that is where my commission is, even though I may be signing in a different county. So far, I haven't had any negative repercussions, but I certainly want to do this correctly. Can anyone from California lead me in the right direction?
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dfye@mcttelecom.com

New Hampshire
681 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2006 :  01:50:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit dfye@mcttelecom.com's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I second that BobbiCT

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BobbiCT

Connecticut
135 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2005 :  05:40:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit BobbiCT's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If the "county" question is in connection with the venue in your notarization block, then the correct answer is:

Your notarization block venue should contain the State and County where YOU and SIGNERS ARE when you perform the notarization.

For example: I am notarizing a document for borrowers who are mortgaging real property located in the City of Norwich, County of New London, Connecticut. We are signing everything in the Town of East Haddam, County of Middlesex, Connecticut.

All real property location references would be New London County, Connecticut.

My venue in my notarization block, however, would look like this:

State of Connecticut:
County of Middlesex: ss. East Haddam

You can verify this with your own State Notary Public commissioning office. Notarization venues are always where YOU & SIGNER are at the time of notarization. Easy way to remember: If the property is located in Texas or the papers were prepared in Texas and you are performing the notarization in Connecticut, you wouldn't use Texas as your notarization venue. Same holds true for county.
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n/a

Alabama
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  05:20:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I am also new to this signing. I had the same question. I called the lending company and also the company who called me for notary services. They both said, the I would put the county in which the property is in, no matter what county I am doing the signing in. I would like someone to clarify this.
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